Patch's Poll: Are You In Favor of the New Britain-Hartford Busway Project?

A project to create a rapid busway line between the two cities is expected to cost over $500 million.

Construction on a new $550 million rapid transit bus line between New Britain and Hartford started this past summer.

The 9.4-mile long rapid bus route, dubbed “CTfastrak,” is meant to alleviate traffic on the highway between these two cities, and to encourage mass transit projects for the future. It's also expected to bring construction jobs to the area, as the project will take a few years to complete.

But the busway hasn’t been without controversy. Several lawmakers opposed it back in April, as reported by the Hartford Courant, and according to CTNewsJunkie.com there is a dispute over the fact that the project would close a street in Hartford.

And there are those who are upset about it cutting into their neighborhoods, like New Britain resident Rick Nelson who told WTNH it was a “waste of money and time.”

What are your thoughts on this bus project? Do you support it or do you think it’s a bad idea? Take our poll and share your thoughts in the comments.

Greg August 23, 2012 at 03:37 PM
Poor options for responses. How about I am for mass transit but not this busway project.
R Eleveld August 23, 2012 at 04:53 PM
The busway is a terrible idea for many reasons: #1 The "office" work environment of the 1960's is no more. We do not see large companies with a sea of people punching in at ~8A, and leaving at ~4P or ~5P. Companies are doing more flex, or core hours, and telecommuting, and this means fewer employees all at one place, at the same time. Remember the word MASS in mass transit. It also means less floor space then in the past to house the same number of employees. Ask anyone in the commercial office space business. It is a trend. #2 Also more businesses are moving out of Hartford because of costs and TAXES. Look it up. This in turn means fewer daily commuters going to a single area. #3 Looking long term we see more distributed staffs and all this does not work well with a commuting system that is built for a concept stuck in the 1960's. #4 Mass transit like this works only in concentrated cities where at a minimum a MILLION people live in very high density. Think Tokyo, New York, Paris, Berlin, London, and I can go on. If you want to build it because you think they will come, you are WRONG. The trends are clearly not working for this project. It is a boondoggle. There are many that believe inaccurately that if it is built, it will generate a change in attitude. So who cares how much it will cost or operate. Then again we can try to blackmail or Jobsmail more companies to STAY in the area. Another foolish idea.
Dean August 23, 2012 at 09:40 PM
The money would have been better spent on a light rail. A better idea for a busway would have been to run it from willimantic to New Britain. Connect ing 2 dying cities does not make money, but if the line went from ECSU/ downtown willimantic to UCONN, to Vernon Center, to downtown Manchester, to renseallear field, to Hartford, to west Hartford retail areas, to the UCONN medical center, then to new Britain....it will have connected a lot of college age students with retail and cultural centers, places of business for interns and jobs, and the Capitol city. It could possibly draw more youth to because it could cut down the need for cars. But, we are stuck with New Briitain to Hartford where mainly poor people will use it, not bringing any revenue, energy, entrepenurialship the city badly needs.
R Eleveld August 24, 2012 at 02:26 AM
Interesting take on the situation. I do not agree on the light rail for the same reasons as above. However you do have an interesting take on the situation.
Neville Levesque August 24, 2012 at 02:33 AM
When will we stop wasting money in this state? This project and the First Five (or 500) are the biggest waste of money ever in CT. Malloy is the worst governor ever. When will the CT voters wake up?
James Bond August 24, 2012 at 01:03 PM
Use your eyes.Do you ever see a bus 1/2 full let alone full.Even the bus drivers said its a waste of money.Those in favor will spin it another way and right now there are a number of legislators who favor this project. Tilcon and Tamasso must be lobbying these guys like crazy. Jobs,jobs.......short term solution to the problem.Why not finish Rte 11?
tina bourke August 24, 2012 at 01:28 PM
I'll agree it is not a good idea, however, I think this governor is doing excellent overall. He was the first governor to open Sunday sales, and if you drink or not, I for one thought it was a barbaric old Blue Law. When we have people who vacation here at least they can benefit if they partake in spirits. He also got important school reform passed. At a risk for a democrat, he was willing to look at the union positions and scale back on BLOAT regarding benefits which we all fund, but we ourselves can't afford and some of us don't have even a fraction of, yet we worked very hard our most of our life! He is also switching over to more technological efficiencies and getting us slowly out of the dark ages. Technology will only streamline and not only make efficiencies but also save us money. He is implementing or rather may have already implemented GAAF accounting system for the state and this will make it more transparent. The tourism in Connecticut has increased due to his campaign, I read which is good for out state and economy. I could go on and on. He has not been complacent and is really working hard to get us.....
R Eleveld August 24, 2012 at 09:34 PM
Interesting... I stand by my original post. As for Tina, Explain how brilliant it is to bribe and JOBSMAIL a $170 Billion Dollar hedge fund[http://bigthink.com/users/raydalio] -- that is ~8X larger than the State budget -- that does not need state money and the cost of this largess will be paid by taxpayers that are the rank and file of state residents LIKE YOU. Consider also that Ray Dalio the principal at Bridgewater "made" $4B in 2011 [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/30/ray-dalio-bridgewater-founder_n_1390316.html] and I am not begrudging him his comp after all theoretically he paid CT $240MM+ in taxes, but really can I get some of this largesse? Sorry I forgot I can't write a big check to Malloy's campaign or anyone else due to regulations. Am I the only one that thinks this is nuts.... but according to some he is doing a great job.
R Eleveld August 24, 2012 at 09:37 PM
You are correct that many buses are not profitable, or do not cover the costs of operation. But to the "mass transit" idealists, they do not care about economic facts. We should look to fix I-84, and look at what improvements can be made to our existing infrastructure.
Catherine & Dennis August 24, 2012 at 11:15 PM
I'll agree with the last statement that Tina made...."he has not been complacent and is really working hard to get us"...I'll say! Dannel has got to go while we still have two nickels to rub together.
Malvi Lennon August 26, 2012 at 12:26 PM
All "Dannel" a/k/a "Dan" has done while in office is payback donors, supporters, and unions for getting him elected. Oh yeah he is also responsible for the largest tax increase in CT history, and he has weaken laws that protect the public. He is absolutley doing a fantastic job flushing Connecticut down the toilett.


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